Doctors' Comments on the Locations Effect

[Lisa Petrison]

Following are some comments from Dr. Sarah Myhill, a physician treating ME/CFS in the UK. She has been known to suggest to patients that they move to the coast or to other places like Spain to help their illness:

"The key to diagnosing mould allergy is the history and if patients are improved in a mould free or low mould environment then this is highly suggestive that moulds are a problem. In order to survive moulds have to get their water from air, therefore they do not exist either in very dry climates (which may be hot dry or cold dry), above three thousand feet where the air is too thin to hold sufficient moisture, or on sea fronts where the prevailing winds are onshore. Since moulds do not live in oceans, their spores are constantly blown in land.

"Therefore, to diagnose mould allergy I currently recommend that people have a two week holiday in such a mould free environment. They may have already done this and not realised that their improvement was actually due to the control of their mould allergy and ascribe improvement to other factors such as freedom from stress, or sunshine, or whatever."

www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Mould_Sensitivity

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Peripherally related to the Locations effect, Myhill commented: "Morticians have noticed in recent years that dead bodies do not decay as fast as they used to because they are already pickled with chemicals!"

[Lisa Petrison]

A patient wrote to me the following:

"One of the doctors I go to see is the head of alternative medicine out of Alexian Brothers Hospital in Elk Grove Village, Illinois. I just happened to mention to him that I always feel almost normal if I am in the Hawaiian Islands. His answer was.... It is a high energy place because of the volcanic activity in the area. He then said he has had several patients move to the Nevada area around Las Vegas and they have greatly improved. He had patients move to Las Vagas who were able to get off almost all their medications. He also mentioned Wyoming or Montana. I have been to the islands 3 times and so a lot of improvment each time. I think the trade winds and salt water have something to do with it and maybe the volcanic energy as Dr. Massey has told me."

[Lisa Petrison]

Here's a report from Paul Beith:


This is what a very famous CFS doctor said in reference to my mentioning "well" Caribbean locations:

"I have loads of patients from the Caribbean…. But one that did get much better when moving from a urban center to Hawaii , less mold and pollution, lots less stress. She is amazingly better, but we were messing with her immune system at the same time, so is it Hawaii or better antiviral function?"

[Lisa Petrison]

A report:

This is amazing, my doc said pretty much the same thing, nothing he could do for me, for me to move place consistant temps, like 65 degrees, etc. He suggested hawaii, puerto rico.

health.groups.yahoo.com/group/CFS_CFIDS_ME/message/19?l=1

[Lisa Petrison]

A report from Joey:

Everyone immediately gravitates to the "vacation effect". A top ME/CFS specialist told me she hears of people often getting the "hawaii effect" when visiting but then once they move their lives there they no longer get the same effect. Therefore she calls this the "vacation effect". If this level of improvement is really caused by the fact that you're on vacation, wouldn't that corroborate all the Wesseley-ites that it's all in our head? I think it has nothing to do with stress relief. There are plenty of times that patients go on vacation without a worry in the world and feel worse, and definitely could not exercise!

The location and the stuff you bring with you seem to be dependent variables of how patients respond to being in Hawaii.

forums.phoenixrising.me/showthread.php?13799-Mold-or-Oxygen-Feel-better-in-Hawaii/page12

[Lisa Petrison]

From Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt, M.D., Ph.D.:

Considering how much better I sleep in a "Good Location," I was interested in these comments on sleep from Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt. I've heard that Italy and Greece are Good Locations from other people. "Sleep and anxiety, of course, are often connected with each other. But I think it’s the largest topic worldwide. I travel a lot, and wherever I go, when I ask the question, ‘Who has trouble sleeping?’ I think the U.S. is leading, in terms of the numbers of arms that go up in a room. But you know, the European countries, in Europe, I would say that England is right behind the U.S. Germany is quite a bit better still -- not if you go in the big cities, but if you go in the countryside. Much better are Italy, Greece. So I’ve asked a question of course, what’s behind that? With sleep disorders, there are several things. I go up the levels here. On the first level, the most common cause that we see if sleep disturbances is chronic unrecognized infections and accumulated chronic toxicity in the central nervous system. It’s mostly Lyme disease and viral infections that are causing low-grade inflammation in the brain that only can happen when there has been a pre-condition from heavy metal toxicity. Heavy metals have a high affinity for the central nervous system and accumulate there, like mercury, lead, cadmium, nickel and so forth. And because of the environmental changes, all of us are affected by this. There is uranium in the air now, from Iraq and China drifting over us from the fallout. From the airplanes, there’s a lot of barium and aluminum salts that affect every one of us. It doesn’t require that we have worked in a lead factory to get lead toxic anymore. You can just eat normal healthy organic food and accumulate a lot of those things.”

www.oneradionetwork.com/health/dr-dietrich-klinghardt-md-ph-d-the-5-levels-of-healing-january-20-2012/

[Lisa Petrison]

A report via Paul Beith, from April 2006:

Based on what I've heard, I believe that it is the getting away from something that is contributing to the illness rather than the place they are going to. However, I'm sure some places have less pollution than others.

Mold is a problem for most people with FM/CFS and many without. I have attended several American Academy of Environmental Medicine medical conferences (see AAEM.com) and have learned a lot from them as well as communicating with lots of people with FM/CFS.

Best wishes,

Yvonne Keeny
Founder & Executive Director
Fibromyalgia Coalition International
www.fibrocoalition.org